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defrogThe Senate Intelligence Committee has released its report confirming that the US Govt really tortured people to get information out of them, very little of which turned out to be of any value or anything that couldn’t have been gotten by other means.
And as expected, no one really cares.
Well, apart from the usual people who think civil liberties and due process should apply to everyone, and understand that there’s a difference between TV shows like 24 and real life. And of course foreigners like the UN.
But for the most part, there’s a decided lack of outrage. Except I guess for Dick Cheney, who is not only outraged that anyone would dare criticize the Bush Admin for torturing people, but is especially outraged that the report claims George W Bush had no idea what the CIA was doing.
And then there’s Andrea Tantaros of Fox News, who is outraged that the whole point of the report is so liberals can go around telling everyone America is less awesome than it really is.
Other than that, no one seems especially upset about it. I suppose it’s because we had those arguments way back when the programs were first exposed, and enough people at the time felt torture was justified. Even more people feel that way now, according to some polls.
Imagine that.
Which is why I’ll just save myself some typing and link to this Gawker piece that has a good summary of what the report found (torture), why people will still defend it (let's pretend it's not torture) and whether the report will make a difference (no).
Yay?
But then why not? America is officially the country where the majority of people think it’s okay for cops to kill unarmed people if they’re sufficiently scared of them. Why not torture them too?
That seems to be the kind of country a lot of Americans want to live in now. They want their law enforcement agencies to have the ability to torture and kill anyone necessary to make their lives safer, so long as they torture and kill The Right People (i.e. no one you actually know). Well, that's the country they have now.
What could go wrong?
Chairmen of the waterboard,
This is dF
And as expected, no one really cares.
Well, apart from the usual people who think civil liberties and due process should apply to everyone, and understand that there’s a difference between TV shows like 24 and real life. And of course foreigners like the UN.
But for the most part, there’s a decided lack of outrage. Except I guess for Dick Cheney, who is not only outraged that anyone would dare criticize the Bush Admin for torturing people, but is especially outraged that the report claims George W Bush had no idea what the CIA was doing.
And then there’s Andrea Tantaros of Fox News, who is outraged that the whole point of the report is so liberals can go around telling everyone America is less awesome than it really is.
Other than that, no one seems especially upset about it. I suppose it’s because we had those arguments way back when the programs were first exposed, and enough people at the time felt torture was justified. Even more people feel that way now, according to some polls.
Imagine that.
Which is why I’ll just save myself some typing and link to this Gawker piece that has a good summary of what the report found (torture), why people will still defend it (let's pretend it's not torture) and whether the report will make a difference (no).
Yay?
But then why not? America is officially the country where the majority of people think it’s okay for cops to kill unarmed people if they’re sufficiently scared of them. Why not torture them too?
That seems to be the kind of country a lot of Americans want to live in now. They want their law enforcement agencies to have the ability to torture and kill anyone necessary to make their lives safer, so long as they torture and kill The Right People (i.e. no one you actually know). Well, that's the country they have now.
What could go wrong?
Chairmen of the waterboard,
This is dF
