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defrog ([personal profile] defrog) wrote2016-03-01 01:10 pm

FREEDOM OF SPEECH … JUST WATCH WHAT YOU SAY (UNIVERSITY EDITION)

Yr Chilled Speech lede of the day:

Sure, because the last place you want to challenge people’s worldview and expose them to controversial issues is a university. 

Also:

The proposed guidelines also advise faculty to not "'go there' if you sense anger" and "limit student access off hours."
"Only meet 'that student' in controlled circumstances," the guidelines state.

Well, sure. What’s the point of going to university if it means stupid professors challenging yr worldview and saying stuff you don’t agree with and you don't even have the option of the responding to their well-reasoned argument with gunfire?

The NRA Open Carry squad usually has a couple of responses to this sort of thing: (1) The faculty is overrating the actual danger of a class shootout because gun owners are responsible people and not violent psychopaths for whom the best way to resolve an argument is to shoot yr opponent, and (2) If you want to prevent a class shootout, here’s the solution: arm the teachers AND the students, then no one will shoot anyone and you can talk about whatever you want. QED.

Point 1 is probably true to a point. But there’s ample evidence that not every gun owner is responsible, and professors are likely less worried about the 98% of armed students who won’t pull a gun during (or after) a debate and more worried about the 2% who will.

As for Point 2, I don’t believe that arming everyone is a deterrent to a shootout, especially if just one student (or teacher, for that matter) is disturbed or angry enough to not care if everyone else is armed. And the likely result of one gun being pulled out in anger is ALL the other guns being pulled out in self-defense – and with most if not all of the people in that room untrained in dealing with an active-shooter or standoff situation, the result is likely to be messy and stupid.

Or not. But I think that misses the real point that the NRA Open Carry squad generally fails to understand – not everyone wants to carry a gun, and the ones who don’t are generally nervous around the ones who are not only carrying, but making a public display of it. The presence of weapons in a non-combat situation changes the very atmosphere of the room into one of tension and fear – maybe not for Mr Carry Guy, but definitely for everyone else. That’s bad enough in a Chipotles – it’s absolutely wrong for an academic setting which is supposed to be conducive to free speech. Bringing guns to class seems likely to have the opposite effect. It may not be the intention, but it’s still the result.

Age of unreason,

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