But regardless of how much of what's coming out of the WH originates with Trump or Bannon, I think the same argument applies – I don't think it's a coup so much as unhinged incompetent conspiracy theorists who don't know what they're doing or how the real world works.
I think that's hilarious. So you think unhinged, incompetent conspiracy theorists are just rattling our cages. The truth is (and I'm thinking of writing a post to this effect, but as I'm not a political person who has already written a lot about politics to the clear detriment of other topics I would've loved to have been able to focus on, I'm hesitant to do so, because here I go again) that the White House is trolling us and is not going to stop.
The way the troll works, which was probably decided by Bannon long before the election, is Trump is the con/front man who spouts "jobs for whitey", which is the only message under all the racism and hate that this guy's really had. Trump has never believed he'd produce jobs for anyone (nor has he actually wanted to) but that's not the point. The point is the mere symbolism of saying so. Enough whites were racist enough to vote symbolism over progress to make this whole shitshow possible.
It's like how blacks loved Obama though they knew he'd never do a damn thing for them; whites are prepared to show Trump the same adoration merely for offering to help them instead of blacks. The fact that his offer came with a concurrent promise to hurt Mexicans and Muslims was just sugary frosting on a very tall cake. They ate it up and will continue licking that frosting off - yum yum! let's hate the browns and blacks together, so tasty! - for many years to come.
Now that they've bought in, Bannon's pre-election plan falls neatly into place: use Trump as the con/front man to keep doing the "jobs for whitey" jig to distract from everything going on behind the scenes at the exact same time, like them firing the entire State Department, him installing himself as the head of the NSC while telling the heads of the TJCoS and military branch to go get lost, and ensuring Trump keeps the public distracted by shaming him into following through on any/all of even his most his bizarre campaign promises, which Bannon insists he do not show Trump is honest, but solely to keep the public looking away from him while he consolidates power for himself.
That explains both the lightning speed of all the EOs in the last 11 days purportedly designed to fulfill campaign promises and the harshness and suddenness of the most recent big-deal one (the Muslim ban): keep the public looking at all the relatively unimportant shit Trump has going down while Bannon re-arranges deck chairs behind the scenes. Make the Muslim ban in particular look egregiously unfair (as it goes into effect immediately as people are boarding or disembarking from flights, completely fucking their lives up) and be real meanies about it (go after green card holders, passport holders, instruct DHS and other branches to ignore quickly issued court orders, even) so the Left pretty much melts down and stays all nice and soft and melty, which uh, we have. We played right into their hands - trolled.
This is what happens when you install the Youtube comments section as President of the United States. The trolls really do work.
If you're Bannon, you take advantage of the free time given by Trump's trolls to re-arrange deck chairs while everyone's still fighting over his trolls (the right: but jobs for whitey! Left: but human rights abuses!) so you can consolidate and use your newfound Vader/Satan powers as soon as possible. You think I'm kidding, right. But Bannon is seriously not well. His whole endgame is: put the con man/troll up front to distract, confuse, anger, and gladden the more evil hearts, so he has time to quietly re-arrange deck chairs without being much noticed or commented upon.
The whole endgame/long-term plan is to make money. This regime is not out to get "jobs for whitey" or anything else it promised its naive, easily led rabble. It's here to rape the US financially, keep the public confused, bickering with, and hating on each other, and to profit. That's it. This last point - the whole reason for the regime's existence as envisioned by Trump and Bannon a while ago - is more a part I'd delve into on my own blog, but basically, that's the whole raw skeletal outline of why we are here.
Divisiveness is exactly what this regime wants and the more we indulge it the further and faster we will fall as a nation. Unfortunately, divisiveness starts at the top, in this case with the regime itself, and is enforced by Congress, which happens to be all for it, because they're just looking to cash in. This will be the first time in American history a regime came into power merely to financially rape the land and move on (or not move on) like the cancer it is, but that's where we are.
And if it IS an attempt to burn the current system to the ground, it won't work because a successful coup requires a level of intelligence, cleverness and advance planning that I don't seriously believe Trump or Bannon have.
Trump is out to make money off his new job, enrich himself, those kids of his, and eventually move on. He's not a complicated, intellectual, or very deep kind of guy. He's an experienced con, though, so insomuch as he knows pretty much from lifelong muscle memory how to con, he'll do so. He's not smart enough to see Bannon conning him, he's just following the guy's orders thinking that's what he has to do to look like he's fulfilling campaign pledges, which Bannon has convinced him is important (maybe to get re-elected in 2020, something Trump has already filed paperwork to do and raised $7 million in order to accomplish) though we all know it's not.
Trump is never going to think it through much past that because he's too busy trying to suss out how to enrich himself, so Bannon can and will easily twist him into all sorts of contortions to distract the public away from what he's up to while Trump performs.
I'd never underestimate Bannon: he might be a crude, dirty looking guy with a huge beer belly and five day shadow who dresses like a bum and obviously gives not a shit about himself, but he cares about power, and he's there to to get it. Anyone who went from editor of a lying piece of shit blog like Breitbart to the Prez's right-hand man in the space of one summer deserves very careful study and for his mindset (which is not good) to be approached with an abundance of caution, if not with respect or any faith in his good conscience.
Whatever else Bannon is, he's no evil genius.
I'm not going to sit here and disagree, but I think he's already shown enough evil genius to prove most doubters kind of wrong. Until the day the shit really hits the fan, though, that's just a simple difference of opinion.
Also, just because whitehouse.gov deletes its page on the judicial branch
It's back. For now. Only thousands of us noticed it's absence, but I guess for the moment that was enough for them to decide to restore the damn thing. They are testing our limits, though, in all things great and small, including in things like that.
Just to solve the whole puzzle for you (and it's a puzzle, granted): the one person who makes it possible for this regime to serve itself financially will probably be Peter Thiel. He's the missing puzzle piece. He's working with a number of states that want a new Constitutional Convention held to get a date set for it (there are enough states willing to participate right now to make it possible).
Once him and like-minded business leaders (the Koch brothers are in on this, too) actually get the Constitution rewritten (with Trump's, Bannon's and Congress's overarching blessing, of course! Or at least their publicly consumed seeming indifference; either way it's the same result) to favor businesses over people, it's all over, and all the naive "jobs for whitey" folks will finally learn what they actually voted for, but too late, and scant sympathy from me. They can go fuck themselves at that point, because they set the stage to allow the entire country to be raped and pillaged by the rich and powerful, which certainly won't benefit any of us in the long run. Who's laughing then.
Of course, to pull off the Constitution getting rewritten we'll need much more jig-performing from the top on down to distract from the seriousness of such a thing, so watch as Trump concurrently deports 11 million people, imposes martial law over "terrorist attacks" his stupid Muslim ban just couldn't stop, sad!, offers to (or actually does) turn the Middle East into glass, closes down various branches of government and opens others dedicated to using race more openly to manipulate people's emotions, to warp their consciences and ruin their lives so they won't have the time or emotional energy to see what the regime is really up to (nor will they care) and so on.
And you thought the author we were discussing was a conspiracy theorist! Ha. Try me sometime. I had to tamp down the whole conspiracy theorist side of my personality for the scandal-free Obama presidency quite a bit, but I'm a latent conspiracy theorist to the hilt, and this regime is causing that side of my mind to positively just blossom again.
I sort of need to get on with my life, though, because I can pretty much see how and what this regime might do, so I'd rather just call it now and try to move on (again, I'm not a political writer, but here I am) until their actions actually stop me from living a normal life, rather than follow it day by day and keep quiet just because the great majority can't and won't even venture a guess as to what's really up. I will! If the regime turns out any better than I imagine then fine, I'll be glad to say, OK, I was so very wrong.
There's almost 0% chance of that, though; at its best this regime will deeply damage the American psyche in ways that will linger for generations to come. If Trump resigned or dropped dead of a heart attack tomorrow it would be too late: that much damage has already been done. And he's just getting started. Oh, well.
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on 2017-02-02 10:38 am (UTC)I think that's hilarious. So you think unhinged, incompetent conspiracy theorists are just rattling our cages. The truth is (and I'm thinking of writing a post to this effect, but as I'm not a political person who has already written a lot about politics to the clear detriment of other topics I would've loved to have been able to focus on, I'm hesitant to do so, because here I go again) that the White House is trolling us and is not going to stop.
The way the troll works, which was probably decided by Bannon long before the election, is Trump is the con/front man who spouts "jobs for whitey", which is the only message under all the racism and hate that this guy's really had. Trump has never believed he'd produce jobs for anyone (nor has he actually wanted to) but that's not the point. The point is the mere symbolism of saying so. Enough whites were racist enough to vote symbolism over progress to make this whole shitshow possible.
It's like how blacks loved Obama though they knew he'd never do a damn thing for them; whites are prepared to show Trump the same adoration merely for offering to help them instead of blacks. The fact that his offer came with a concurrent promise to hurt Mexicans and Muslims was just sugary frosting on a very tall cake. They ate it up and will continue licking that frosting off - yum yum! let's hate the browns and blacks together, so tasty! - for many years to come.
Now that they've bought in, Bannon's pre-election plan falls neatly into place: use Trump as the con/front man to keep doing the "jobs for whitey" jig to distract from everything going on behind the scenes at the exact same time, like them firing the entire State Department, him installing himself as the head of the NSC while telling the heads of the TJCoS and military branch to go get lost, and ensuring Trump keeps the public distracted by shaming him into following through on any/all of even his most his bizarre campaign promises, which Bannon insists he do not show Trump is honest, but solely to keep the public looking away from him while he consolidates power for himself.
That explains both the lightning speed of all the EOs in the last 11 days purportedly designed to fulfill campaign promises and the harshness and suddenness of the most recent big-deal one (the Muslim ban): keep the public looking at all the relatively unimportant shit Trump has going down while Bannon re-arranges deck chairs behind the scenes. Make the Muslim ban in particular look egregiously unfair (as it goes into effect immediately as people are boarding or disembarking from flights, completely fucking their lives up) and be real meanies about it (go after green card holders, passport holders, instruct DHS and other branches to ignore quickly issued court orders, even) so the Left pretty much melts down and stays all nice and soft and melty, which uh, we have. We played right into their hands - trolled.
This is what happens when you install the Youtube comments section as President of the United States. The trolls really do work.
If you're Bannon, you take advantage of the free time given by Trump's trolls to re-arrange deck chairs while everyone's still fighting over his trolls (the right: but jobs for whitey! Left: but human rights abuses!) so you can consolidate and use your newfound Vader/Satan powers as soon as possible. You think I'm kidding, right. But Bannon is seriously not well. His whole endgame is: put the con man/troll up front to distract, confuse, anger, and gladden the more evil hearts, so he has time to quietly re-arrange deck chairs without being much noticed or commented upon.
The whole endgame/long-term plan is to make money. This regime is not out to get "jobs for whitey" or anything else it promised its naive, easily led rabble. It's here to rape the US financially, keep the public confused, bickering with, and hating on each other, and to profit. That's it. This last point - the whole reason for the regime's existence as envisioned by Trump and Bannon a while ago - is more a part I'd delve into on my own blog, but basically, that's the whole raw skeletal outline of why we are here.
Divisiveness is exactly what this regime wants and the more we indulge it the further and faster we will fall as a nation. Unfortunately, divisiveness starts at the top, in this case with the regime itself, and is enforced by Congress, which happens to be all for it, because they're just looking to cash in. This will be the first time in American history a regime came into power merely to financially rape the land and move on (or not move on) like the cancer it is, but that's where we are.
And if it IS an attempt to burn the current system to the ground, it won't work because a successful coup requires a level of intelligence, cleverness and advance planning that I don't seriously believe Trump or Bannon have.
Trump is out to make money off his new job, enrich himself, those kids of his, and eventually move on. He's not a complicated, intellectual, or very deep kind of guy. He's an experienced con, though, so insomuch as he knows pretty much from lifelong muscle memory how to con, he'll do so. He's not smart enough to see Bannon conning him, he's just following the guy's orders thinking that's what he has to do to look like he's fulfilling campaign pledges, which Bannon has convinced him is important (maybe to get re-elected in 2020, something Trump has already filed paperwork to do and raised $7 million in order to accomplish) though we all know it's not.
Trump is never going to think it through much past that because he's too busy trying to suss out how to enrich himself, so Bannon can and will easily twist him into all sorts of contortions to distract the public away from what he's up to while Trump performs.
I'd never underestimate Bannon: he might be a crude, dirty looking guy with a huge beer belly and five day shadow who dresses like a bum and obviously gives not a shit about himself, but he cares about power, and he's there to to get it. Anyone who went from editor of a lying piece of shit blog like Breitbart to the Prez's right-hand man in the space of one summer deserves very careful study and for his mindset (which is not good) to be approached with an abundance of caution, if not with respect or any faith in his good conscience.
Whatever else Bannon is, he's no evil genius.
I'm not going to sit here and disagree, but I think he's already shown enough evil genius to prove most doubters kind of wrong. Until the day the shit really hits the fan, though, that's just a simple difference of opinion.
Also, just because whitehouse.gov deletes its page on the judicial branch
It's back. For now. Only thousands of us noticed it's absence, but I guess for the moment that was enough for them to decide to restore the damn thing. They are testing our limits, though, in all things great and small, including in things like that.
Just to solve the whole puzzle for you (and it's a puzzle, granted): the one person who makes it possible for this regime to serve itself financially will probably be Peter Thiel. He's the missing puzzle piece. He's working with a number of states that want a new Constitutional Convention held to get a date set for it (there are enough states willing to participate right now to make it possible).
Once him and like-minded business leaders (the Koch brothers are in on this, too) actually get the Constitution rewritten (with Trump's, Bannon's and Congress's overarching blessing, of course! Or at least their publicly consumed seeming indifference; either way it's the same result) to favor businesses over people, it's all over, and all the naive "jobs for whitey" folks will finally learn what they actually voted for, but too late, and scant sympathy from me. They can go fuck themselves at that point, because they set the stage to allow the entire country to be raped and pillaged by the rich and powerful, which certainly won't benefit any of us in the long run. Who's laughing then.
Of course, to pull off the Constitution getting rewritten we'll need much more jig-performing from the top on down to distract from the seriousness of such a thing, so watch as Trump concurrently deports 11 million people, imposes martial law over "terrorist attacks" his stupid Muslim ban just couldn't stop, sad!, offers to (or actually does) turn the Middle East into glass, closes down various branches of government and opens others dedicated to using race more openly to manipulate people's emotions, to warp their consciences and ruin their lives so they won't have the time or emotional energy to see what the regime is really up to (nor will they care) and so on.
And you thought the author we were discussing was a conspiracy theorist! Ha. Try me sometime. I had to tamp down the whole conspiracy theorist side of my personality for the scandal-free Obama presidency quite a bit, but I'm a latent conspiracy theorist to the hilt, and this regime is causing that side of my mind to positively just blossom again.
I sort of need to get on with my life, though, because I can pretty much see how and what this regime might do, so I'd rather just call it now and try to move on (again, I'm not a political writer, but here I am) until their actions actually stop me from living a normal life, rather than follow it day by day and keep quiet just because the great majority can't and won't even venture a guess as to what's really up. I will! If the regime turns out any better than I imagine then fine, I'll be glad to say, OK, I was so very wrong.
There's almost 0% chance of that, though; at its best this regime will deeply damage the American psyche in ways that will linger for generations to come. If Trump resigned or dropped dead of a heart attack tomorrow it would be too late: that much damage has already been done. And he's just getting started. Oh, well.