I WISH I KNEW HOW TO QUIT YOU
May. 8th, 2008 07:19 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
defrog[Or, "Let me get this off my chest, Part 562,919"
ITEM [via Wil Wheaton]: Hillary Clinton’s refusal to give up the nomination is starting to transform her from feisty candidate into psycho ex-girlfriend. Imagine the following 3am phone call:
And so on.
So maybe it’s just as well we’re starting to see signs that Hillary’s days are numbered. Post-NC/Indiana, the math is no longer in her favor, she’s running out of money, and some of the superdelegates she was banking on seem to be moving in Obama’s direction. John Zogby reckons she knows the game is up and will probably drop out before the final primaries next month.
For the record, I’ve always felt Hillary Clinton should run for as long as she wants. If she loses the DNC convention and still refuses to quit campaigning, then you’ve got problems. But in a race this close, I think she’s entitled if she really wants to push it (even if half her votes are probably coming from Republicans trying to give McCain someone he can beat).
On the other hand, assuming they were all legit Democrats, it is worth asking how many of the delegates she won two months ago would still vote for her if they held their primaries today. Lots of people back then were backing the horse they figured could beatGiuliani Huckabee Romney McCain. And if you go by Pollingreport.com, as of Tuesday Obama and Hillary have an equal chance of beating McCain.
Which is why I never really bought the “She’s fragmenting the party” line, either. The only people fragmenting the party are obsessed Democrats and liberals who can’t admit that their own precious candidate who backed their idiosyncratic pet issues isn’t winning. Go to the liberal blogs and most of them are still saying, “We wouldn’t even HAVE this problem if everyone had listened to us and backed Dennis Kucinich, goddammit!”
What I’m betting on is that even these people will realize by November that if it’s change they want on any scale, it’s not going to come from the GOP. You want a candidate who can beat him? Get out there and fucking vote for the Democrat! It really is that easy. Forget whether his or her health care plan is perfect, or if they ever took money from a corporate lobbyist (hint: they ALL have) or whatever. You want a perfect candidate? There’s no such thing. Get over yrself and fucking support the Democrat, or live with four more years of business as usual.
Seriously. This isn’t rocket science. And with so much at stake, I can’t believe Hillary’s people would choose now of all times to go all Cartman on us – “Screw you guys, I’m going home!” – just because their fave Demo didn’t get chosen.
If they do, then the Demos deserve to lose.
I know it’s over,
This is dF and I endorse this message
ITEM [via Wil Wheaton]: Hillary Clinton’s refusal to give up the nomination is starting to transform her from feisty candidate into psycho ex-girlfriend. Imagine the following 3am phone call:
DEMS: ...Hello?
Hillary: Hey baby.
DEMS: C'mon Hillary. Enough with this.
Hillary: Don't you get it? You NEED me.
DEMS: No, I don't. It was fun while it lasted but I'm with Barack now. I made my choice, it's done.
Hillary: You can't really mean that. How can you say that after all the good times we had?
DEMS: To be honest, I started hanging out with you because Bill's pretty awesome.
Hillary: But I'm just like Bill!
DEMS: No, you're not. Bill is charismatic, inspiring, and gets me really good weed.
Hillary: Fuck you. You're elitist!
DEMS: I'm going back to sleep.
Hillary: No, no, wait. I'm sorry, I didn't mean that. Listen...
And so on.
So maybe it’s just as well we’re starting to see signs that Hillary’s days are numbered. Post-NC/Indiana, the math is no longer in her favor, she’s running out of money, and some of the superdelegates she was banking on seem to be moving in Obama’s direction. John Zogby reckons she knows the game is up and will probably drop out before the final primaries next month.
For the record, I’ve always felt Hillary Clinton should run for as long as she wants. If she loses the DNC convention and still refuses to quit campaigning, then you’ve got problems. But in a race this close, I think she’s entitled if she really wants to push it (even if half her votes are probably coming from Republicans trying to give McCain someone he can beat).
On the other hand, assuming they were all legit Democrats, it is worth asking how many of the delegates she won two months ago would still vote for her if they held their primaries today. Lots of people back then were backing the horse they figured could beat
Which is why I never really bought the “She’s fragmenting the party” line, either. The only people fragmenting the party are obsessed Democrats and liberals who can’t admit that their own precious candidate who backed their idiosyncratic pet issues isn’t winning. Go to the liberal blogs and most of them are still saying, “We wouldn’t even HAVE this problem if everyone had listened to us and backed Dennis Kucinich, goddammit!”
What I’m betting on is that even these people will realize by November that if it’s change they want on any scale, it’s not going to come from the GOP. You want a candidate who can beat him? Get out there and fucking vote for the Democrat! It really is that easy. Forget whether his or her health care plan is perfect, or if they ever took money from a corporate lobbyist (hint: they ALL have) or whatever. You want a perfect candidate? There’s no such thing. Get over yrself and fucking support the Democrat, or live with four more years of business as usual.
Seriously. This isn’t rocket science. And with so much at stake, I can’t believe Hillary’s people would choose now of all times to go all Cartman on us – “Screw you guys, I’m going home!” – just because their fave Demo didn’t get chosen.
If they do, then the Demos deserve to lose.
I know it’s over,
This is dF and I endorse this message
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on 2008-05-08 11:49 am (UTC)i site Al Gore as 'how not to do it'. He made such a stink running against Bush over votes and chads that it ruined his future chances of ever being elected. he should have cordially backed off after about a week of disputing florida instead of ruining his future career by dragging crap out for... how long was it? like 2 months? nobody really takes him seriously anymore as a politician. hillary shouldn't go down that road.
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on 2008-05-08 12:11 pm (UTC)no subject
on 2008-05-08 12:15 pm (UTC)Can I paraphrase Tom Morello?
If course I can, tis the interweb:
"Creatign change is not about electing the right president, it's about standing up for your rights and speaking your mind instead of sitting in front of your Playstation."
-- JF
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on 2008-05-08 01:17 pm (UTC)i am not a regular watcher of the daily show, but mccain was on and i couldn't help but think 'is this guy gonna even last until the election?'. not only did he seem out of it, but damn! that guy is OLD!
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on 2008-05-08 03:15 pm (UTC)People like that need to be taken out back and shot. Or beaten with very heavy, blunt objects.
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on 2008-05-08 05:06 pm (UTC)But it wouldn't be the first time American political parties shifted loyalties and directions, so maybe that's what we're seeing happening now. Otherwise, after McCain and the Democrat nominee are through shredding each other, I think the bitter partygoers will vote along party lines. In theory.
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on 2008-05-08 05:07 pm (UTC)