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Much has been written about how Christmas seems to come earlier every year, but for my money, the Christmas season doesn’t truly start until Bill O’Reilly begins his War On Christmas coverage.

This time, of course, he has proof that atheists want to kill Christmas forever – they’re taking out ads on buses and placing Winter Solstice placards at Nativity scenes. I mean, honestly, what more proof do you need that these people want to make belief in God and Bible ownership a capital offense? If you actually allow them to speak this hate speech in public, you might as well say its okay to punch nuns and blow up churches, cos that’s what they REALLY want.

Yes, well, we all know about Bill. He thinks the Constitution is based on the teachings of Jesus. (I’m not kidding.)

But I thought this was worth relaying because much of this is at the heart of a Supreme Court case currently in the works. In Pleasant Grove City, Utah, a city park that allows groups to put up displays accepted a Ten Commandments monument given to the city by the Fraternal Order of Eagles, but rejected a monument from a religious organization called Summum that listed the group’s Seven Principles of Creation. Summum sued on 1A grounds, and the US Court of Appeals ruled in their favor. Now the Supremes are looking into it.

This interests me because it’s an aspect of the Ten Commandments debate that doesn’t get enough play. My take has always been that if yr going to allow the 10C in courthouses and Nativity scenes in public squares, then it’s only fair to allow people with other religious beliefs – or those with none at all – the same courtesy. So I’ll be interested in the outcome.

The problem, of course, is that thanks to yr outgoing President and his posse, the hardcore Christian Right has enthusiastically embraced the “yr with us or against us” mentality and deployed it for every single debate on public policy that somehow reflects their religious beliefs. A vote against Prop 8 is a vote to outlaw Christianity. If you want to put yr atheist pagan message in the town square next to a Nativity scene, yr denying Christians their First Amendment right to celebrate Christmas. That kind of thing.

So the Supreme Court ruling probably won’t change anything. If they rule in favor of Summum, Bill will just babble about activist judges again and dedicate his life to fighting the liberal Muslim tyranny of the Obama Gang – which he’ll do anyway.

And people wonder why I hate Christmas.

Bah all over yr humbug,

This is dF

on 2008-12-07 01:15 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] dinopollard.livejournal.com
The Constitution was based on the Common Law and I refer O'Reilly to this quote from a left-wing, militant liberal America-hater named Thomas Jefferson: "Christianity is not part of the Common Law."

The Ten Commandments thing is bullshit. Anyone who says our laws are based on the Ten Commandments is either completely ignorant of the law, completely ignorant of the Commandments, or both. There are only two Commandments that are part of the law -- thou shalt not kill and thou shalt not steal. And those laws are in every country and predate Christianity.

Also, the Christmas tree is a pagan display that was adopted by the Catholic church to convert pagans to Christianity.

That "lawyer" (assuming she even is actually a lawyer, as Fox has a habit of putting on "experts" who aren't experts in anything other than bullshit) is full of it as well. Equating non-Christians to the KKK? Someone should also tell her that the Easter eggs and all that stuff were also from paganism.

The logic O'Reilly uses is so illogical.

on 2008-12-07 03:16 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] lorilori.livejournal.com
It makes me happy to know that Rupert hates Bill.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/1108/Wolff_Murdoch_absolutely_despises_OReilly_.html

on 2008-12-07 06:01 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] isis-lives.livejournal.com
Well.....he has a strange way to show his integrity. He signs his paycheck and gives him a forum.

on 2008-12-07 08:39 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] lorilori.livejournal.com
This isn't about integrity. This is business.

"—because the money is the money; success trumps all—"

on 2008-12-07 08:44 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] isis-lives.livejournal.com
Exactly my point.

on 2008-12-08 12:57 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] def-fr0g-42.livejournal.com
Luckily for Bill-O, ratings are ratings. Which is unlucky for the rest of us, if you see what I'm saying.

on 2008-12-07 06:04 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] isis-lives.livejournal.com
Something in me thinks that this attention is exactly what keeps O'Reilly "popular." He doesn't care if it is good attention or bad attention, it is attention.

on 2008-12-08 12:59 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] def-fr0g-42.livejournal.com
Another way of putting it is, "There's no such thing as bad publicity." Sadly, I think it's his good ratings that keep him on the air, but the massive Internet coverage every time he says something idiotic can't hurt.

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