HEALTHCARE REFORM UPDATE FROM THE UNITED STATES OF BATSHIT

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ITEM [via dinopollard ]: Rep. Michele Bachmann warns America that the Obamacare plan could include a provision in which if you criticize it, you’ll end up on a blacklist that will deny you treatment – just like they do in Japan.

Her source: some random guy she just happened to meet.

"He said that in Japan, to wait and get health care is almost impossible. You get on a list and you wait and you wait and you wait. But he said this is something people don't know: in Japan, people have stopped voicing their opinion on health care. There are things that are wrong with Japanese health care, but people are afraid of voicing. 'Well why is that,' I asked. [He said], 'Because they know that would get on a list and they wouldn't get health care. They wouldn't get in. They wouldn't get seen. And so people are afraid. They're afraid to speak back to government. They're afraid to say anything.' Is that what we want for our future? That takes us to gangster government at that point!"

Video is here if you want it.

And so much for bipartisanship.

FUN FACT: Most hospitals and doctor’s offices in Japan are privately run, not govt-owned, though the govt regulates costs heavily to keep them affordable. Health insurance is mandatory, but private insurance remains an option. It’s not perfect by any means,  but it’s not exactly the “govt takeover of healthcare” Bachmann says it is.

That said, she’s never actually been to Japan, so what the hell do I know?

Making a list,

This is dF

Comments

[nebris.livejournal.com]

That woman won't be happy until she's been ass raped by the Nation of Islam. All of them.

~M~

[dinopollard.livejournal.com]

It's all slanderous fiction. The reason no one in Japan complains about the health care system is because everyone loves the health care system over here. Annual health check-ups are mandatory, costs are low, life expectancy is high, medical bill bankruptcy is unheard of, and access to doctors and hospitals is incredibly easy. The other day I was feeling sick so I scheduled an appointment to see my doctor. Two hours later, I was sitting in his office. Fifteen minutes after I left, I had my prescription medication in hand.

[mimick.livejournal.com]

And with all of that the choice of what to do with your own body is gone. Already your hero Obama is wasted billions of dollars trying to keep the middle class buoyed and not spent one dime helping the little people. Well, fuck you and Obama. Oh, I mean Jimmy Carter the third!

[dinopollard.livejournal.com]

Go away, Mick. You don't know the first thing about Japan's health care system, so don't pretend like you do. Go back to bitching about how horrible government health care is while you reap the benefits of Medicare and Medicaid, you stupid little hypocrite.

[mimick.livejournal.com]

There's three problems that some one like you, Dino wouldn't even be aware of with Japan's healthcare.

1.The Japanese doctors have no medical ethics, or bedside manners. Which means they are blunt like House from the television series, telling people they will die, are going to die, etc. Destroying any reality of hope for the family, etc.

2.Not many Japanese are interested in the medical profession, so fewer physicians exist in Japan. As many seek technology jobs.

3.Any costs from your medical bills is automatically deducted from your paycheck to cover them. Instead of you paying into the health insurance to pay for your medical costs. Thus, if a idiot like you broke every bone in your body. You wouldn't get paid as your salary would be deducted for however much the medical bills cost. God forbid, a peon like you gets hurt.

Here's where you can bone up, Reagan.

http://www.expatforum.com/articles/health/health-care-in-japan.html


As for Obama care, Obama wants to create a Big Brother style healthcare provider so the government can be selective in who gets their insurance, and what medical bills get paid. Since you can't understand that. Maybe you should go back to kindergarten and start your education all over.

[dinopollard.livejournal.com]

"There's three problems that some one like you, Dino wouldn't even be aware of with Japan's healthcare."

Oh PLEASE explain Japanese health care to ME, someone who actually LIVES IN JAPAN. This should be fun.

"The Japanese doctors have no medical ethics, or bedside manners. Which means they are blunt like House from the television series, telling people they will die, are going to die, etc. Destroying any reality of hope for the family, etc."

This is a lie (and extremely racist as well). I have seen a few different doctors in Japan, every single one of them has had excellent bedside manner. Not one person I know in Japan has ever had a bad thing to say about Japanese doctors, and that includes other Americans.

"Not many Japanese are interested in the medical profession, so fewer physicians exist in Japan. As many seek technology jobs."

Lie. I live in a small town in a small prefecture and the majority of the Japanese people I meet have been in the medical profession. Of the five women I've dated in Japan, three of them have worked in the medical industry -- one as a nurse, one as a pharmacist.

"Any costs from your medical bills is automatically deducted from your paycheck to cover them. Instead of you paying into the health insurance to pay for your medical costs. Thus, if a idiot like you broke every bone in your body. You wouldn't get paid as your salary would be deducted for however much the medical bills cost. God forbid, a peon like you gets hurt."

Lie. My annual medical check-up, mandated by law, is part of my insurance coverage. Every time I go to the doctor, I pay a $10 copay. The only costs deducted from my wages are the regular monthly premiums, which are far lower than my premiums were in America for a plan that was much worse. My prescriptions costs less than $5. I have been to see my regular doctor three times. I have been to the emergency room once. I have seen the dentist once. I have had a thorough physical examination. Not once were extra costs deducted from my paycheck.

Friends of mine have faired worse medically. Some of them HAVE broken their bones. Some of them have been hospitalized. Again, not once were extra costs deducted from their paychecks.

You're full of shit. Japan has one of the greatest health care systems in the world and this is backed up by the World Health Organization. And I think they know just a tad more about health care than Mick Edwards and the Expat Forum.

[mimick.livejournal.com]

Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall... Your stupidity is beyond belief.

[dinopollard.livejournal.com]

You've just been proven wrong on every point about Japamese health care by someone who lives under that system. Prove how any of what I just said is false. Show me some sources. Because someone on expatforum who cites no sources is not reliable.

[mimick.livejournal.com]

The fact that you mispelled Japanese is hilarious. What's even funnier is because you live in a small area of Japan, you think you know everything there is to know about the whole country.

[dinopollard.livejournal.com]

I misspelled it because I was typing on the iPhone, which has a very small keyboard. Most people who have iPhones frequently make spelling mistakes on that keyboard.

And yes, I do live in a small town. But I am also part of one of the largest professional international exchange organizations and I have friends in numerous parts of Japan, including big cities such as Sapporo, Fukuoka, Osaka, Tokyo, Saitama, and so on. We all have the same insurance. We all love it.

So once more, give me some concrete proof that the Japanese health care system is bad. Because I've got firsthand testimony as well as the World Health Organization backing me up.

[thelastaerie.livejournal.com]

yeah, that's all true and that's why the Japan has the highest life expectancy in the world. *roll eyes*

i think it's better if they don't use other countries' healthcare system to justify their batshit - that would just create, err... a bigger batshit.